{"id":18087,"date":"2016-06-02T13:44:40","date_gmt":"2016-06-02T13:44:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/communicating-hidden-potential-jan-tim-edlers-realitiesunited\/"},"modified":"2025-11-15T13:01:02","modified_gmt":"2025-11-15T13:01:02","slug":"communicating-hidden-potential-jan-tim-edlers-realitiesunited","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/communicating-hidden-potential-jan-tim-edlers-realitiesunited\/","title":{"rendered":"realities:united &#8211; Exploring Hidden Potential"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><span style=\"color: #000000;\">realities:united &#8211; Exploring\u00a0Hidden Potential<\/span><\/h1>\n<h5>BY SEBASTIAN SCHUMACHER<\/h5>\n<hr \/>\n<p>The brothers Tim and Jan Edler have been a fixture in Berlin\u2019s architecture and art scene for almost two decades. Their collaboration began in 1997 with the artists\u2019 collective Kunst und Technik, from which they later went on to found their own studio for art, architecture, and technology, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realities-united.de\/\">realities:united<\/a>, in 2000.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>From their Berlin-based office they develop projects all over the world, always finding a unique solution for each one by utilizing a hidden potential, specific to the situation. <em>impactmania<\/em> met up with Jan Edler in Kreuzberg, Berlin, to talk about their particular attitude, which leads to some extraordinarily urban interventions that are often more art than architecture.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>How would you define your work? Are you architects, designers, or artists?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Tim and I are both trained architects. Looking back at what we have done over the last 20 years, I think our work is situated somewhere between art and architecture. In the beginning it was always a big deal to try to differentiate, to determine what it is, but by now I have given up on exactly specifying it. Even though most of our projects have an architectural background or influence, it doesn&#8217;t mean that the finished pieces are architecture per se.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>One architectural feature that you have concentrated on in your work in the past is the dynamic, or \u201cmedia,\u201d fa\u00e7ade. Why is that? <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The last fa\u00e7ade we completed was in 2012. Right now we are mostly working on projects that are more or less financed by the art world. These projects tend to be situated in the realm of public art rather than parts of buildings.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The fa\u00e7ades we did in the past were the result of collaborations with \u201cproper\u201d architects, who we sometimes team up with to work on a specific issue or topic of their building design. Our fa\u00e7ade designs grew out of our interest [in] architecture becoming changeable or \u201cdynamic.\u201d So these projects weren\u2019t driven by our enthusiasm about what one might call a \u201cmedia fa\u00e7ade\u201d; we didn&#8217;t even know what that was supposed to be when we developed our first fa\u00e7ade.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2428\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2428\" class=\"wp-image-2428 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/01-BIX-ExplodedDrawing\u00a92001-03-realities-united-Berlin-1024x724-2.jpg\" alt=\"Kunsthaus Graz, BIX-Exploded Drawing, \u00a92001-03 realities:united, Berlin\" width=\"1024\" height=\"724\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2428\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kunsthaus Graz, BIX-Exploded Drawing, \u00a92001-03 realities:united, Berlin<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Tell me more about the fa\u00e7ade you are best known for: on the <\/strong><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.museum-joanneum.at\/en\/kunsthaus-graz\"><strong>Kunsthaus Graz<\/strong><\/a><strong> in Austria by the architects Colin Fournier and Peter Cook.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">There&#8217;s a kind of symbiotic nature to that project. We were called in to develop what was described as \u201ca concept for the integration of media technology.\u201d Nobody really knew what that was supposed to be. The idea came from our understanding that the fa\u00e7ade, as it was going to be realized, was not doing what it was supposed to do: The original design by the architects was supposed to create a transparent enclosure which turned out to be too cost-intensive. We developed a concept in order to fulfill the architect\u2019s original intention: a fa\u00e7ade that would re-create a communicative relation between the interior and the urban surrounding.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2429\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2429\" class=\"wp-image-2429 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/02-BIX-\u00a92003-Harry-Schiffer-Graz-1024x681-1.jpg\" alt=\"Kunsthaus Graz \u00a92003 Harry Schiffer, Graz\" width=\"1024\" height=\"681\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2429\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kunsthaus Graz \u00a92003 Harry Schiffer, Graz<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Is this a general theme in your work, aiding communication between different aspects of a project? <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I would rather say that some of our work is driven by making use of the hidden potential we discover in a specific surrounding or project. Often these projects deal with the enhancement of communication. But I would not call that a general theme.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Another of the projects you are known for is the Flussbad, a proposal to create a public bathing area on the River Spree in the heart of Berlin. Here you are working on a bigger urban scale. Was this project also driven by the desire to establish communication, in this case between different aspects of the city?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Yes and no. I think to a certain extent the <a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flussbad-berlin.de\/\">Flussbad<\/a> project is driven by the idea to connect the city with an unused arm of River Spree.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2430\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2430\" class=\"wp-image-2430 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/03-Flussbad\u00a92015-realties-united-Berlin-1024x569-1.jpg\" alt=\" Flussbad concept drawing \u00a92015 realties:united, Berlin\" width=\"1024\" height=\"569\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2430\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Flussbad concept drawing \u00a92015 realties:united, Berlin<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We are talking about an urban void of 1.8 kilometers [in] length in the very heart of the historic center of Berlin. The intention of the project is to revive and enrich that area, to make it accessible for the Berliners. Using the river to swim \u2026 has a long, yet forgotten, tradition \u2014 in that way the Flussbad project re-establishes an old connection in a modern manner.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>When did you first have the idea?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">My brother Tim initiated it about 20 years ago. At that time we were working as part of an art association called Kunst und Technik based in Monbijou Park in the city center, near to the Flussbad site, on the other side of the Spree Island. It was a typical intermediate project that happened after the fall of the Berlin Wall \u2014 an illegal nightclub. Tim was looking at the resource of that river arm and started thinking about how to make use of that huge undiscovered potential in the city.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>What is the current status of the project? Has it gained some traction over the last few years?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The project has funding now. After we won the 100,000 USD <a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.lafargeholcim-foundation.org\/Article\/berlin-flussbad-project-wins-global-award-for-sustainable-constr\">Holcim Award for Sustainable Construction<\/a> for it in 2011, we decided to form a nonprofit organization to support the development and communication of the project. This has been slowly growing, and the organization so far has managed to acquire funding twice: The Lotto Foundation Berlin allowed us to look at the technical feasibility of the project \u2014 which has now been proven \u2014 and shortly afterwards we received funding from the federal government and the Senate of Berlin, which is still ongoing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We now have 4 million EUR to further develop the project until the end of 2018. We are setting up numerous communication channels in order to see if Berliners want to see this kind of project in their city center, and to prepare the political decision for its implementation or, if we are lucky, to achieve a political decision on the project.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Is it not a bit ironic that there you are working very closely with the public and incorporating them into the process, whilst at the same time another big project \u2014 one which does not enjoy a whole lot of support from ordinary Berliners \u2014 is happening just a short distance away: the reconstruction of the Stadtschloss (City Palace)? How do you see the relationship between these two projects?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The Stadtschloss, or the <a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.humboldt-forum.de\/startseite\/\">Humboldt Forum<\/a>, as one must call it now, is trying to facilitate what they call \u201can intercultural dialogue.\u201d That, of course, is mostly directed towards the past. But how can we re-orientate our thinking processes towards the future?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The Flussbad project has the potential to be a catalyst to connect the Humboldt Forum with the city of Berlin, to prolong this intercultural dialogue with everyday culture by implementing a function in the city center that also appeals to people that perhaps wouldn\u2019t usually visit the Museum Island. With Flussbad, the unused Spree Canal becomes a true connecting lifeline in the city again.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Why fight to have the Flussbad right in the heart of the city? Why not somewhere farther out where it is less populated and less full of traffic?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The project deals with the idea of clean water. It\u2019s about cleaning the natural resource of the river that is becoming spoilt due to the city\u2019s mixed sewage system. It also concerns the broader theme of sustainable urban redevelopment \u2014 both of which are big topics. Clean water is traditionally a status symbol for developed society, and the notion that future urban redevelopment must be sustainable slowly becomes \u201cobvious.\u201d Here on the steps of the temples of high culture such as the Museum Island is the right location to negotiate such issues that will determine our future life in growing cities like Berlin.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>One of your newer projects is a big public art installation in Copenhagen. Here, too, you found an unusual way to communicate something to the public. Can you tell me how you developed this concept?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We developed this project as part of a competition for a new waste-to-energy plant we did together with Danish architect <a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.big.dk\/\">Bjarke Ingels (BIG).<\/a> As we had done other competitions together beforehand, including the National Monument to Freedom and Unity in Berlin, we knew that our small team had difficulties to keep up with the enormous daily output of Bjarke\u2019s huge creative \u201cmachine.\u201d Therefore we decided to concentrate on the smokestack only \u2014 an element that you cannot get rid of. \u2028We were fascinated by this ultimate symbol of the industrial era: an essential but devilish element in a project, which claimed to be the greenest waste-to-energy plant in the world.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2431\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2431\" class=\"wp-image-2431 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/04-\u00a92010-by-BIG-1024x683-1.jpg\" alt=\"Rendering of BIG\u2019s Waste-to-Energy plant in Copenhagen \u00a92010 by BIG\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2431\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rendering of BIG\u2019s Waste-to-Energy plant in Copenhagen \u00a92010 by BIG<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Driven by his idea of what he calls \u201chedonistic sustainability,\u201d Bjarke proposed an industrial plant, which is made accessible to people instead of being fenced off from the city territory.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">On top of the mountain-shaped energy plant, he created a public park for hiking and skiing \u2014 a fantastic concept which implies a very bright future: The next generation will go skiing on top of a highly efficient waste-to-energy plant, which produces the necessary heat and energy for all Copenhageners while hardly releasing any toxic fumes. You could think, \u201cLet\u2019s throw away more! We will benefit from more energy and heat, and a growing machine-mountain will provide better skiing slopes at the same time!\u2028\u2028\u201d Yet the plant still releases CO<sub>2<\/sub>.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2432\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2432\" class=\"wp-image-2432 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/05-Smokering-1024x512-2.jpg\" alt=\"BIG Vortex installation \u00a92010\/11 by realities:united, Berlin \" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2432\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">BIG Vortex installation \u00a92010\/11 by realities:united, Berlin<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Therefore we proposed to convert the smokestack into a vortex machine: A large chamber on top of the building accumulates half a ton or a ton of combustion gas and pumps it out periodically.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2434\" style=\"width: 742px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2434\" class=\"wp-image-2434 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/06_Copyright-by-Juerg-Alean.jpg\" alt=\"Natural smoke ring at mount Etna \u00a92000 by J\u00fcrg Alean\" width=\"732\" height=\"516\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2434\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Natural smoke ring at mount Etna \u00a92000 by J\u00fcrg Alean<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The outcome is [an] up-to-30-meters-in-diameter large smoke ring rising slowly into the sky of Copenhagen \u2014 a very tangible scale for society to understand their carbon footprint. I like to look at it as a gentle but persistent reminder that we haven\u2019t arrived yet as a society and that we still have a lot of work ahead.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>In 2000 the brothers Tim Edler and Jan Edler founded realities:united (realU), a studio for art, architecture and technology. realities:united develops and supports architectural solutions, usually incorporating new media and information technologies.<\/p>\n<p>One major focus of realities:united is architecture\u2019s outward communicative capacity. Another is the quality of the user experience inside spaces, which in function\u00a0and appearance is essentially augmented and changed by additional layers carrying information, media content and communication.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tim and Jan Edler&#8217;s work drive meaningful cultural and social impact. 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