{"id":18081,"date":"2016-06-01T13:44:40","date_gmt":"2016-06-01T13:44:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/kienzle-art-foundation-asks-see\/"},"modified":"2025-11-15T14:29:27","modified_gmt":"2025-11-15T14:29:27","slug":"kienzle-art-foundation-asks-see","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/kienzle-art-foundation-asks-see\/","title":{"rendered":"Kienzle Art Foundation Asks: &#8220;What Do you See?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Kienzle Art Foundation Asks: &#8220;What Do you See?&#8221;<\/span><\/h1>\n<h5>BY PAKSY PLACKIS-CHENG<\/h5>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Jochen Kienzle jokes that the first generation builds a company, the second generation manages it, and the third generation studies art history.<\/p>\n<p>Kienzle\u2019s family are\u00a0one of Germany&#8217;s oldest clock- and <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Kienzle_Uhren\">watchmakers<\/a><\/strong>. It then expanded into producing parking and taximeters. They even launched a computer.<!--more--><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2021\" style=\"width: 4042px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2021\" class=\"wp-image-2021 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Kienzle-Travel-Clocks.jpg\" width=\"4032\" height=\"3024\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2021\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kienzle Travel Clocks<\/p><\/div>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-2020\" src=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Kienzle-Co-225x300-1.jpg\" alt=\"Kienzle Co\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" \/>Jochen Kienzle&#8217;s apartment has the family&#8217;s travel- and desk clocks scattered\u00a0on a few shelves and a side table in a corner, because the rest of the house is committed to contemporary art.<\/p>\n<p>Kienzle showed <em>impactmania<\/em> the <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/kienzleartfoundation.de\/\">Kienzle Art Foundation<\/a><\/strong> in Charlottenburg, Berlin, and some of his work on loan at <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/cavuspace.com\/\">Cavuspace<\/a><\/strong>, a space in Sch\u00f6neberg, Berlin, that presents alternative thinkers and makers\u00a0in the art realm.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Why the Kienzle Art Foundation?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I was studying art history and psychology in Munich and was always asking, &#8220;How can I mediate the ideas and philosophy behind the paintings; what kind of art beside the mainstream exist; why are some painters successful and others not&#8221;?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">With the foundation, I want to show people things they&#8217;re not used to seeing. I focus on artists who are lesser known or those who we have forgotten.\u00a0We are living in a very fast paced, quickly passing time. Sometimes we forget or\u00a0we don\u2019t discover the works of many good artists.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">People believe that museum exhibitions are a proven tool for measuring the quality of art. The art works are determined to be historically accepted. But the commercial aspect plays an important role in the museum&#8217;s \u201csystem\u201d. The value\u00a0of art works are regarded in our society as a measurement of value and success. High prices are sensational and sexy. It\u00a0brings visitors to the museums. Museums are now producing popular and entertaining shows and are nearly looking the same worldwide.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Do you think museums\u2019 successes are measured incorrectly?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Yes, the problem is that German museums are supported by the state. The measure of a good museum is \u2026 reaching some quotas\u2026 how many people came to the show.\u00a0The quantity of visitors does not say anything about quality of an exhibition.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"page\" title=\"Page 2\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Museum shows should have more courage and discourse\u00a0in the sense of their expectations of visitors\u2019 understanding and thoughts\u00a0about art.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Museums hold pieces in the view of art history, old and already discussed themes. For the artistry, it&#8217;s not interesting. It doesn&#8217;t push us forward. The\u00a0problem is that\u00a0museums are not independent of the money.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In the U.S., the system is even harder. There the collectors have a very big influence. They usually have a certain intention. Some collectors bring their collection to the museums because when it appears in a catalog, the value of the thing goes up \u2014 regardless of the quality.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>What are the main misconceptions in art? <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I think the public is consuming art. People have no feeling anymore for art. They have no time to think about it. They&#8217;re used to having a show, which is already explained, where there is no discussion and no contradiction.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cPainting 2.0\u201d Exhibition in Munich for example: It is of how the market is pushing themes, which in historical view is not right. They&#8217;re leaving facts\u00a0out; they don&#8217;t speak about related\u00a0themes in art history; and they showed\u00a0artists outside the context of the Exhibition.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I think what happened is that art has lost her freedom. The market is elevating certain art and people\u2026 When a painting is very expensive, it must be a good one.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2025\" style=\"width: 778px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2025\" class=\"wp-image-2025 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Cavuspace-e1463401991445-768x1024-1.jpg\" alt=\"Cavuspace\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2025\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/annaoppermann.com\/\">Anna Oppermann<\/a><\/strong>, one of Kienzle Art Foundation&#8217;s pieces at Cavuspace, Berlin<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>What can a person do about this?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">You only have to be aware of this.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It&#8217;s very important that we come back to art, in the sense that we begin to discuss and see the social themes. A true will of communication of our culture \u2014\u00a0\u00a0a critical analysis and reflection.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">If the museums would open up, the people who run these institutions could bring big effect. People could learn our culture.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Most people think art is only for the elite society. It is also why I founded the foundation because in the gallery, I have to sell. We have a duty to make good art, and to bring the art to the people.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">People get it. From me, they get no answers. I only try to open their eyes and make the people sensitive for certain problems in painting society, as it were.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In our society, everything is entertainment. We are losing views on problems and solutions we have. We don\u2019t see that art can do more than we think.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Do you have advice for people who\u2019d like to start collecting art?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Look critically at everything; go to museums, foundations, galleries \u2014 look at all the shows. When I have students who come to the foundation, I always ask them, what are they seeing? What is wrong? What&#8217;s happened? Why is there something that is out of the ordinary? I think you have to train your eye. This is important for collectors but also for artists.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Look with your eyes and not with your ears. Don\u2019t listen too much to art critics and rankings. Some artists tend to serve the market or their career. That is the reason a lot of artists make their works bigger and bigger, glamorous, and overwhelming. But when you scratch the surface, there is no substance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>What is your legacy with this collection that you are building?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">This is to show to people, that&#8217;s all, to add something, and to elevate. Not elevate in the sense of money, elevating in the sense of content, without consumerism and capitalization.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">For some time, we had a visitor who seemed to be very interested in our shows. He came for years, but he was always very shy. He comes in, looks around, and suddenly leaves \u2014 very fast.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">One day \u2014 I think it was in the fifth year \u2014 he came and finally spoke to me. He said, \u201cMr. Kienzle, I don&#8217;t understand what you&#8217;re doing.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I was shocked, because he&#8217;s been coming for five years looking at work.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2024\" style=\"width: 778px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2024\" class=\"wp-image-2024 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Inside-Kienzle-Art-Foundation-e1463401964866-768x1024-1.jpg\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2024\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kienzle Art Foundation<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cOkay. That&#8217;s a pity,\u201d I said, \u201cbecause I want people to understand art.\u201d Then, he said, \u201cYes, I don&#8217;t understand anything, but when I&#8217;m going home, I&#8217;m thinking about it.\u201d He discovered something new. He felt it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">This was the reason I gave up the gallery [I used to own]; it doesn&#8217;t make sense to follow a commercial objective. It&#8217;s not only money that counts; you have another value, too, a moral value. That is what drives me because we have to debate and we have to make clear that culture is part of our life. It shows where you are coming from. It&#8217;s a very essential part in our life.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/kienzleartfoundation.de\/\">Kienzle Art Foundation<\/a><br \/>\n<\/strong>Bleibtreustra\u00dfe 54, 10623 Berlin, Germany<strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/cavuspace.com\/\">Cavuspace<br \/>\n<\/a><\/strong>CAVU: An acronym used in aviation \u201cCeiling and Visibility Unlimited\u201d \u2014\u00a0describing\u00a0ideal flying conditions.<\/p>\n<p>Cavuspace is dedicated to present alternative positions of thinkers and makers in the\u00a0art realm. The organization champions collaboration between different disciplines to move from society to community and fuels\u00a0the power\u00a0of a collective consciousness.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jochen Kienzle, member of one of the oldest clock- and watchmaking family in Germany, commits his life to contemporary art and artists. 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