{"id":13612,"date":"2019-02-19T18:50:59","date_gmt":"2019-02-19T18:50:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/?p=13612"},"modified":"2019-02-19T21:40:18","modified_gmt":"2019-02-19T21:40:18","slug":"eric-fong-migration-and-mobility","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/eric-fong-migration-and-mobility\/","title":{"rendered":"Eric Fong: People with the Same Race and Ethnicity Also Face Integration Issues"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">Today, there are approximately 258 million people living in a country other than their country of birth. <a href=\"http:\/\/publications.iom.int\/books\/world-migration-report-2018\">The World Migration Report projects the world to experience 405 million international migrants by 2050<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/\"><em>impactmania<\/em><\/a> and University of California, Santa Barbara\u2019s (UCSB) Human Mind and Migration program asks how migration impacts our minds and cultures. We are exploring people movements\u2014for example, Mexicans in Boyle Heights, Los Angeles; Chinese migrants in South Africa, and Filipino domestic workers in Hong Kong. Hong Kong\u2019s main migration matters are Chinese from Mainland China and foreign domestic workers.<!--more--><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Foreign_domestic_helpers_in_Hong_Kong\">Migrant workers in Hong Kong make up 5% of a population of 7.4 million<\/a>. Last year (2017), the 370,000 migrant domestic workers represented 10% of the total work force of which 48 percent were from the Philippines, 49.4 percent from Indonesia, and 1.3 percent from Thailand. About 98.5% of them are women who often must leave their own families and children behind to take care of their employers\u2019 families. These family and household caretakers are required by law to live in their employer&#8217;s residences.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cuhk.edu.hk\/rcmm\/\">The Research Centre on Migration and Mobility<\/a> in Hong Kong has interviewed 2,000 Filipino and Indonesian workers in Hong Kong to gain better knowledge about the dynamics and the complexities of the migrant situation. <em>impactmania<\/em> met with Professor Eric Fong, Director of the Research Centre on Migration and Mobility in Hong Kong.<!--more--><\/span><\/p>\n<h5><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">BY PAKSY PLACKIS-CHENG<!--more--><\/span><\/h5>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><b style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">Professor Fong, you have been working on an extensive <\/b><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><b>qualitative<\/b><\/span><b style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">\u00a0study on migrant domestic workers in Hong Kong. What are the <\/b><strong style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">main focuses of your<\/strong><strong style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"> research?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">We looked at the migrant workers\u2019 health, social networks, work, and their relationships with their employers. We also looked at their migration histories, the marital relationships back home, and how many children they have.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>What are some of the research\u2019s initial findings?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">The migrant domestic workers\u2019 mental health is not as good as the local population. We are trying to understand the reasons and how to address the issues.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">We also have looked at migrant domestic workers\u2019 social network. A lot of studies suggest that your social network develops social capital and helps you find better jobs. This is not the case among the migrant domestic workers. Their social network is not helping them find a job with better economic returns.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">Interestingly, a lot of the workers don\u2019t seek help from the government, social services, and don&#8217;t look for NGOs (non-governmental organization). Instead, a lot of them seek help from their churches and mosques. This is a quite important finding because in Hong Kong, we may have always emphasized on creating better services through NGOs.<br \/>\n<\/span><!--more--><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_13627\" style=\"width: 843px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Migrant-Domestic-Workers-HKG-impactmania.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-13627\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13627\" src=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Migrant-Domestic-Workers-HKG-impactmania.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"833\" height=\"608\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Migrant-Domestic-Workers-HKG-impactmania-200x146.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Migrant-Domestic-Workers-HKG-impactmania-300x219.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Migrant-Domestic-Workers-HKG-impactmania-400x292.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Migrant-Domestic-Workers-HKG-impactmania-600x438.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Migrant-Domestic-Workers-HKG-impactmania-768x561.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Migrant-Domestic-Workers-HKG-impactmania-800x584.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/im\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Migrant-Domestic-Workers-HKG-impactmania.jpg 833w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 833px) 100vw, 833px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-13627\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Hong Kong government closed the roads at Central to give the Filipino domestic workers a place to meet. Photo: <em>impactmania<\/em>.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>On Sunday, I walked through Central and saw hundreds of Filipino domestic workers camped out on the streets. What do Hong Kong people think of this?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">Yes, the Chinese Hong Kong government has blocked certain roads specifically for migrant workers, because there&#8217;s no other space for them to mingle. People from Hong Kong are quite used to it, because this has happened for a number of years now. I think most people even think that they should have a better place to enjoy their one-day a week off from work.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">A lot of Filipinos meet at Central because the Catholic Church is there. The Indonesian mingle around Causeway Bay area because the Consulate is very close by. Based on our data, a large number of them have been in Hong Kong for 10 years or more.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>Interestingly, the domestic workers I spoke with all said they are in Hong Kong temporarily. Then, if you ask them how long they have been here, no one I spoke with <\/strong><strong>was<\/strong><strong> here for less than 4-5 years.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">It&#8217;s a very interesting arrangement. A lot of migrant domestic workers stay with one family for a long period of time. When they were initially hired, they were asked to take care of the children of the family. Most of them stay ten years, spending longer time with the employer\u2019s kids than with their own kids.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">There are some studies in the United States looking at Mexican migrants. Similarly, some arrived to a new country leaving behind their own families. The migrant domestic worker in Hong Kong, often female, and her employer form close attachments, because the worker takes care of the family almost all day.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>What are some of the future trends of migrant domestic workers?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">More and more countries will need migrant domestic worker. Even in Japan, they are considering recruitment of migrant domestic workers, because of the aging population.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">From the supply side, migrant domestic workers have a high level of education, especially from the Philippines. There are agencies providing training before the migrants move abroad. Participants are educated about the culture, how to take care of things, and even how to cook local dishes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>Any idea what is happening in the Philippines with the Country\u2019s women labor force leaving behind senior people with their young children?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">It is an important question. I have not seen too many works published about this particular issue. We only know that the Filipino government is receiving a lot of remittance that&#8217;s very significant to the country. We don\u2019t know how this affects the family relationships and the development of the villages.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>What are you hoping the research will solve or uncover?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">We definitely need to document the general trends about the group. If we don\u2019t, we may not be able to provide better support to them. If we can identify the issues, then we can make better suggestions in terms of policies to the government. Or advise the group on how to better protect themselves.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>Let\u2019s talk about the migrant issue with Mainland Chinese people moving to Hong Kong after the British handover (1997). Who were these migrants moving out of China to Hong Kong?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/news.abs-cbn.com\/overseas\/06\/28\/17\/how-many-foreign-domestic-helpers-are-in-hong-kong\">The [940,000] people who moved from China to Hong Kong were mainly composed of family reunification<\/a>. Studies suggest that most of the migrants were female who came to Hong Kong with their children to reunite with their Hong Kong husbands.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">The second migrant group is highly educated; some are students who stayed in Hong Kong. The immigration process is somewhat similar to the United States. You have to return to the country of origin, unless you have a job after graduation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">The third group is the investment group. Investors are allowed to stay in Hong Kong if they bring in a certain amount of money.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>What have you learned about the work of integrating groups of people? Is there a nation that has seen successful integration? Often, Canada is named as a nation who has seen successful integration of diverse groups of people.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">One thing that attracted me to work in Hong Kong is because it is different from the United States, Canada, or even Europe. When we study immigration in North America and Europe, it always involves race. When we talk about migrants from Mainland China to Hong Kong, it&#8217;s not a different racial group.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>There were still challenges though, right?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">Yes, there&#8217;s a really clear group boundary between those from Hong Kong and those from Mainland. That makes the study more interesting, because you cannot find such a case in other parts of the world. We see that even with people with the same race and ethnicity, they still have to cross boundaries to meet local friends to develop social ties.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>Are there similarities between East and West Berlin as part of the Germany unification?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">I think that&#8217;s a good illustration. It is different in a sense that Eastern and Western Germany reunification was to become one place, one country. Hong Kong is a place with two systems. You still have to learn another system. The system, in terms of the culture and language, is very different from China\u2019s Mainland.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">You will find that the Mainland migrants are experiencing the same as migrants in North America, except they are actually from the same ethnic group. We don&#8217;t have much information in terms of how well they integrate.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">Especially, among the largest migrant group from China, the Chinese wives with Hong Kong husbands usually have limited social networks. Many may speak a dialect somewhat similar, but not exactly like Cantonese [language spoken in Hong Kong].\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>Where is that&#8217;s coming from, you mentioned that the two groups share the same race and ethnicity.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">Most people have parents or grandparents that moved from China to Hong Kong during the Civil War or after the communist government took over. [After the Japanese occupation of Hong Kong in 1945, the renewal of Nationalist-Communist Civil War in China resulted in <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/1950s_in_Hong_Kong\">1.5 million Chinese refugees to flee to Hong Kong<\/a>].\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">People who moved to Hong Kong had a particular set of thinking of what Hong Kong was about and what Mainland was about. Once the door opened to China in the 80&#8217;s, Hong Kong people saw examples that reinforced their thinking. Most of the time we only pick out examples that fit with what we learned.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>You say that it is a learned idea that Chinese people from Mainland and from Hong Kong are different?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">It is fascinating, it&#8217;s related to cognition, the development of socialization from when we are very young.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\"><strong>Back to integration: what have you learned concerning the integration of different groups of people?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">Countries have different policies towards the integration of immigrants.\u00a0In countries such as Canada, there is an emphasis on group rights. Other governments, for example, the United States, the emphasis is on providing resources to the individual to compete and narrow the socioeconomic differences. In European countries, you see more emphasis on learning the history and culture of the host country.\u00a0There is no one effective way. However, we do know that the individual socioeconomic background and ethnic community are important to the integration of immigrants. Often times, when governments see different groups have similar level of education and occupations, it is considered as the groups have been integrated.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica;\">Next week: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.impactmania.com\/\"><em>impactmania<\/em><\/a> interviews a Filipino domestic worker who has been living with and caring for her employers&#8217; families for the last 30 years.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s a really clear group boundary between those from Hong Kong and those from Mainland. That makes the study more interesting, because you cannot find such a case in other parts of the world. 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